This is a very simple project. It’s goal is to find out one answer:
It is proving quite difficult to get a definitive answer suprisingly.
This bit was mostly written in May
In 1885 and 1886 (and maybe more years), the EUU put on theatre shows to raise money for the building of Teviot. The fact that EUDS was not involved here probably proves that we did not exist as a society back then.
6th of March 1885:
20th of March 1886:
I think the reason these only seem to exist in these 2 years is that EUU didn’t exist till 1884, and that by 1886 they had accumulated enough funds to build Teviot so more fundraising was not necessary. (Most funds are credited to the Fancy Fair at Waverly Market though, the Uni page on Teviot doesn’t even mention theatre which I find interesting)
There isn’t really any evidence for this, it all seems to be just stated as fact, it is listed on the EUSA and Bedlam Theatre wikipedia pages, as well as a few other places.
The best course of action is probably finding the history of the EUU and the SRC, finding how they collabrate. What we really need is something saying the society didn’t exist then,
If we can get this book it is likely we can get a more definitive year probably.
If sir henry irving was the honory president, it is possible that in a biography of his, there might be a record confirming that he was asked to be part of the society, which might confirm back to that date at least.
The Student is bound to have either show listings or ‘hey look there’s a new society!’ articles, and they’ve existed back to 1887, so almost definitely existed before we did
There is also the question of if the EUUDS is the same organisation as the EUDS. The answer is almost absolutely yes.
We 99% certainly came into existance around May of 1890.
Okay so you know how when looking into something, you can get to a point that you’re fairly sure you’ve found all there is to find, and have come to a sound conclusion. Well that’s what I thought! But what we found in May is apparently not the whole story… So here’s more (from November)(all 2020)
“1939? I thought you said 1890??” I hear you say. Yeah same… Stil this exists:
This is an article from February of 1939, talking about ‘the recently founded’… hmm
So, did some digging, and this shows up in Jan of 1932:
This basically means that we disappeared for some time between the end 20’s/early 30’s, and then came back in 1939… (I say we, it’s basically 2 seperate companies so thats a fun debate)
The SCDA has a full record, we took part in 1927 and then didn’t take part again till 1943, so that gap finally makes sense.
There’s no newspaper articles for us between 1927 and 1939. (there also isn’t for 1894-1920 but this is another issue)
In a 1933 book on the History of the University, it is said that the English Literature Society and the Classics society did recenlty put on plays, and EUDS isn’t mentioned at all.
I want to check ‘The Students’ but this is a big job so might take a while
We’re basically 50 years younger than we thought we were. Auch. We can probably just say that the 1890-1927(ish) society was us but that’s a bit of a ship-of-Theseus problem.
Either way, more questions for us to find out why we disappeared and came back.
Well… turns out ‘the 1890-1927(ish)’ society is also… not 1 society… I’m back (1-Dec-2020), to report that after 1894 we just… disappear? I looked through the students from 1889 through 1897, originally hoping to find some more shows for the showarchive, but instead finding that we already knew of all the shows (they did a total of 4 ‘festivals’ all having about 2 shows each. In March 1894 one of those festivals happens, and after that, there is 0 mention of us at all (i checked through to 1897, then time ran out)
In hindsight this makes sense, as we don’t show up in newspaper archives for a while after 1894 either, first time we show up again after 1894 is 1920. So, guess I’ll soon be back to tell you when we started up again around that time.
The 1890-1894 society had their inaugural meeting on the 11th of March 1890.
(I promise I’ll summarise this page at some point, but after we figure out the 1920’s one.